thanks for the compliment.
 would probably caution a lot of people I know from  logging on to this site. I have always kept my language clean and I don't have to have a dirty mouth to display I'm not educated

Just an observer her but i would side with Cabeza de Martillo.  There is a lot of knowledge on this site, i dont know about telling my friends not to sign up is the best idea for their fishing success.  However. if they are like you and rude to long time members, then maybe they are best not on the site

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I think it's a great question.

I would not give consent to use my iron

Just say no.

Basically nothing good can ever come from consenting to law enforcement requests. Only the status quo. At best. Just. Say. No.

I guess I'm missing the point or am just naive?

When I see a warden I usually say hi and ask if he wants to see my license and take, and pull out whatever fish/abs etc I have and throw them on my hawg trough or ab gauge....

I don't have anything to hide, I want it to be a positive experience, and try and make the most of it....and so far it always has been...regardless of whether I've had monster fish/abs or just legal ones....

Just the way I am I guess?

Sincerely,

Jim

Back in the day if you ever had to deal with the D-Head at Stillwater North you'd understand.
Every weekend that guy would give me the run around with my abs. Never in a friendly way either.
Caught the guy at 10:30 PM in the tall grass spying on our campsite one night.
One time I was walking back to the camp with my gear and abs, obviously sea sick, and he stopped me in the road and wanted to see my license and abs. I was on a first name basis with this guy and he had checked me dozens of times in the past, literally. I've always been legal.
I was puking and he told me to open my float so he could check my abs.
I replied, F#(K YOU! I'm sick, open it yourself.
That was the last time I ever stayed at SW North until 2 years ago.
He's since long gone.

So, you knew Prozac Mike? He made me deflate my inflatable and remove the floorboards in a driving rain storm. Heard he is now a cop in Alaska.

Quote from: Tote on February 06, 2016, 04:16:40 AM

Back in the day if you ever had to deal with the D-Head at Stillwater North you'd understand.
Every weekend that guy would give me the run around with my abs. Never in a friendly way either.
Caught the guy at 10:30 PM in the tall grass spying on our campsite one night.
One time I was walking back to the camp with my gear and abs, obviously sea sick, and he stopped me in the road and wanted to see my license and abs. I was on a first name basis with this guy and he had checked me dozens of times in the past, literally. I've always been legal.
I was puking and he told me to open my float so he could check my abs.
I replied, F#(K YOU! I'm sick, open it yourself.
That was the last time I ever stayed at SW North until 2 years ago.
He's since long gone.

So, you knew Prozac Mike? He made me deflate my inflatable and remove the floorboards in a driving rain storm. Heard he is now a cop in Alaska.

Yep. Same guy and I heard the same. Good riddance!!!

You lose absolutely nothing by doing this and it preserves your constitutional rights.  Be polite and respectful throughout the encounter.  There is basically zero chance the officer tampers with evidence just to trump up F&G charges against you because you pissed him off for asserting your rights.
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not saying it happened to me. A much, much older diver i know swears by it. considering the way I've been treated at times in the past, i wouldn't doubt something that heinous to have happened long ago. my advise is not to give attitude. be reserved, and just comply to requests within your rights. the law finds ways to metaphorically bend you over. trust me, its no fun being young and alone in a beach parking lot with a warden who's giving you the business fishing for tickets. which is fine, i get it..  i just don't like being disrespected during the encounter when I'm being respectful. again, saying no to something like handing over a gauge per eiboh's question is just asking for it.

zero chance? officers never lie when it benefits the state... get real

Individual guages aren't changing spec....the question was whether you should let dfg use your guage to check that your abs are of legal size. 

The response that suggested you do let them use it simply pointed out that you measured them with your guage, so if dfg uses your guage to measure them also then there won't be any question as to legality.  Whereas, if a dfg officer used his own guage there might be a spec difference between theirs and yours.  So if your ab did not measure up on their guage then you're getting a ticket. 

There was a couple instances a few years back where plastic crab guages were out of tolerance a tiny bit and clickers were actually measured out to be undersized at the ramp by dfg. 

So it does happen.

Ex-K wrote: <snipped> There was a couple instances a few years back where plastic crab guages were out of tolerance a tiny bit and clickers were actually measured out to be undersized at the ramp by dfg. 

Then it seems we should all check our gauges to make sure they meet the requirements, and adjust if necessary. We shouldn't have to do that with a commercial product, IMO.

You can sometimes get a good laugh in with a warden, too. I was hunting pheasants in a field along a private dirt road ditch. Two wardens drove up on the road side and checked me out. One asked me to please demonstrate that my shotgun was plugged so it could not hold more than three shells. I opened up my side by side and showed him the breech (which I had emptied when they drove up). His partner may still be laughing at him, I know I still get a chuckle now and again... If everybody can maintain a good, fun attitude, you all get along just fine.