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Topic: Paddling fundamentals  (Read 11336 times)

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havent been on the board for awhile and missed that great vid. so it looked like the final roll footage, you paused longer underwater, before succesfully completing the roll, than the other ones. do you think that is a key part in rolling a SOT, you need to slow, set, then roll so you don't over rotate the heavier boat than say a WW boat, just trying to learn as i want to do some other paddling


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I must have missed the 2014 recap before as well.
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havent been on the board for awhile and missed that great vid. so it looked like the final roll footage, you paused longer underwater, before succesfully completing the roll, than the other ones. do you think that is a key part in rolling a SOT, you need to slow, set, then roll so you don't over rotate the heavier boat than say a WW boat, just trying to learn as i want to do some other paddling

Regarding over rotating, it's hard to explain about slow vs. fast.  You will instinctively learn what is right for you, just like you did when you were a kid learning to skid a bike without pitching over.

I used to know this woman that would roll in incredibly slow motion.  She just had the body control (and flexibility).  She probably would have been very good a yoga.

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havent been on the board for awhile and missed that great vid. so it looked like the final roll footage, you paused longer underwater, before succesfully completing the roll, than the other ones. do you think that is a key part in rolling a SOT, you need to slow, set, then roll so you don't over rotate the heavier boat than say a WW boat, just trying to learn as i want to do some other paddling

Regarding over rotating, it's hard to explain about slow vs. fast.  You will instinctively learn what is right for you, just like you did when you were a kid learning to skid a bike without pitching over.

I used to know this woman that would roll in incredibly slow motion.  She just had the body control (and flexibility).  She probably would have been very good a yoga.

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thanks polepole, did a little rolling in my younger years in WW boats, but with two blown discs in my back and both shoulders with good damage, have been afraid for a long time to try anything like this, but been doing some changes in my life and thinking about venturing out of the SOT world and into some other areas of paddling where a roll would be very helpful, cameron


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havent been on the board for awhile and missed that great vid. so it looked like the final roll footage, you paused longer underwater, before succesfully completing the roll, than the other ones. do you think that is a key part in rolling a SOT, you need to slow, set, then roll so you don't over rotate the heavier boat than say a WW boat, just trying to learn as i want to do some other paddling





 I Appreciate the inquiry bwodun.  Got me to take another look at the video and realize that I should have done it differently.  Should have been shorter with less fishing and more paddle in hand.
Anyway, the over rotation at 1:50 had some contributing factors.
Fatigue. I had been on the water for awhile and already had a healthy dose of rolling/swimming.
Another was that I had already bungled the first attempt, bringing my head up too early.
Then my left leg came free of the strap, making it more difficult to counter with any real authority.
And the most painful to watch, I just gave up.

I believe that the answer to your question is yes. There is absolute value in taking a moment after the set up phase and finding your zone before you snap into the roll.
I just need to work on practicing that more often.
I generally believe that the roll is a way more of a mental maneuver than a athletic one. Unfortunately for me, rolling a big SOT like the T140, will require a bit more than just the solution to the riddle of the roll.
Im still a work in progress.




« Last Edit: May 18, 2015, 02:41:21 PM by Hydrospider »


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 A very functional tool that I use often on the fishing SOT.  It is more difficult when on the elevated chair.

http://www.paddling.net/guidelines/showArticle.html?show=696&utm_source=FBfeed&utm_medium=socialfeeds
« Last Edit: September 04, 2015, 12:36:10 PM by Hydrospider »


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This will probably be the most useful link that I can add to this thread.


http://www.paddling.net/guidelines/showCategory.html?category=16
« Last Edit: May 18, 2015, 02:38:49 PM by Hydrospider »


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Not super exciting, but super helpful in building a strong foundation.

http://www.canoekayak.com/skills/video-dialing-in-your-forward-stroke/

There are only 3 or 4 folks here that have an interest in this kind of stuff, but Ill still try to compile a fairly complete skills resource.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2015, 03:21:38 PM by Hydrospider »


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That's a good one for sure, thanks for posting it!
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A short and simple river skills video that I think is very applicable to those of us fishing rivers.

http://www.paddling.net/guidelines/showArticle.html?show=879&utm_source=FBfeed&utm_medium=socialfeeds

What I wouldn't give for 4 straight days of rain and one of the rivers that I enjoy looking that healthy.


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 Anyone else use a bow rudder? or find value in using it?

Its one of the things I am working on this year. The bow draw/rudder to be more accurate.
It carries over to the SUP as well. Im not great at it but working and hoping I can transition into a smooth forward glide.


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Anyone else use a bow rudder? or find value in using it?

Its one of the things I am working on this year. The bow draw/rudder to be more accurate.
It carries over to the SUP as well. Im not great at it but working and hoping I can transition into a smooth forward glide.

I use bow draw/rudder in my ww all the time, but haven't found it useful on the long SOT.
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Just curious how important paddling skills are to a Hobie Mirage equipped kayaker?  That is the type of kayak I would like to get. 


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Just curious how important paddling skills are to a Hobie Mirage equipped kayaker?  That is the type of kayak I would like to get.
Fins do break from time to time. How comfortable would you feel paddling home if your fins were to break?