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Fed Up
« on: September 12, 2014, 10:03:48 AM »
Illuminating Documentary on the food industry and its astoundingly powerful lobby.

Essentially a diatribe on modern sugar consumption.

The food lobby successfully was able to raise the suggested sugar intake from scientist suggested 10% to a whopping 25% of daily calorie intake and removed all suggestions and percentages from labeling at the same time sugar was being substituted for other ingredients in manufactured foods.

The Heart Association suggests that women should limit sugar intake to no more than 6 teaspoons per day, which provides about 100 calories. Men should limit sugar intake to no more than 9 teaspoons, or about 150 calories. In contrast, the average adult consumes 22 teaspoons per day.

A single Orange or Apple contain 6 teaspoons of sugar.  A 12 oz coke has 10 teaspoons.
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Re: Fed Up
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2014, 10:17:48 AM »
Ummm. Okay, I can't help myself.

Seeing you say something about eating is like listening to Genghis Khan lecture on manners. 
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Re: Fed Up
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2014, 12:07:01 PM »
Fair Point.

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Re: Fed Up
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2014, 12:53:39 PM »
Maybe Genghis Khan doesn't know much about manners, but his other lectures from his academy aren't bad.

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Re: Fed Up
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2014, 04:22:29 PM »
You are both very rude thread-jackers and fully deserve the onslaught of unrequested facts that will now follow.

One interesting part of the history presented was the juncture at which it was determined by rat (fat rat) studies that eating fat was unhealthy and lead to weight gain.  This lead to a mass removal of fat from a large portion of manufactured foods.  They found (whuuuut?) that these products were unpalatable / unsellable.  Sooooooo.  they added sugar - to everything - in increasing and extraordinary quantities and of course labeled them simply "Low fat".   Whoodathunk that the low fat version was significantly less healthy than the high fat version...and no indication on the label (OK, grams are listed but Dubuque aint France).

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Re: Fed Up
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2014, 05:13:06 PM »
We're thread hijackers?  :o


Who's the one who called the thread "Fed Up", which obviously refers to the impact on the value of the dollar if the U.S. Federal Reserve raises interest rates ahead of other nations' central banks, then starts talking about food?   ::)


I would say that the idiotic idea that eating fat makes people fat may have done more harm to Americans' health than any other single dietary belief.  Like the study said, when fat is taken out of food, sugar goes in.  Removing the fat leaves people unsatisfied, so they eat more, and since the "more" means more sugar, then their insulin spikes and they're eating more and more (so more and more sugar) and feeling hungrier. 


People get blamed for being overweight, yet it is the very conscientious who have become most harmed, because the more they take the "expert" advice and cut fat, the more fat they get.  So they cut more and get fatter. 


Articles about fat being good are just barely beginning to appear in the mainstream. But there's overwhelming resistance to that thought.  As fatness increases, most nutritionists and the government are pushing lowfat diets even more strongly--look at school lunches.  Most nutrition advice and discussion has long passed the point where questioning the supremacy of lowfat foods is even debatable anymore.  I bet you'll see bans, taxes, etc. on fat before you'll see any mainstream return to the idea that fat in foods has value.  And cutting sugar won't work unless fat in foods is un-demonized, because people will still feel hungry without it.

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Re: Fed Up
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2014, 06:37:59 PM »
We are to believe that our government has our best interests at heart? The same government that makes billions from the sale of the deadliest product the world has ever seen.....that government?
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Re: Fed Up
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2014, 07:04:57 PM »
Those are "defensive weapons" sold to "peacekeepers".
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Re: Fed Up
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2014, 06:31:57 AM »
But having McDonalds, BK, etc operating public school food services because we could no longer "afford" to prepare food...and having the Coke, Pepsi, etc competing for exclusive school beverage contracts?  That is lunacy even for us. 


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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2014, 07:43:20 AM »
I wasn't referring to weapons...cigarettes. Big tobacco execs should have gotten the chair for what they did...still do. Instead our gov extorts tons of cash from them and taxes the hell out of it. Almost 18 billion to the feds and another 17 or so to the states for a product that we know is marketed almost exclusively to kids and teens and kills millions in a terribly agonizing way every year. And now we all get to pay for the healthcare of those that smoke. Hell with EBT cards we're paying for some TO smoke!. >:( >:(

Lunacy indeed. Nothing our government does surprises me anymore...the more logical a solution might be the less likely they are to do it. Rational thought seems to go out the window.
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Re: Fed Up
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2014, 11:35:55 AM »
We could always go with prohibitions--because that's worked so well in the past.

The government is us. People sell out their kids education because they want more pay. It's terrible when an American is killed but no big deal when it's a bunch of kids and women that dress funny. It's only news in Boston when there's a link to Boston (Saugus man killed in New York Nuclear Holocaust). Short term interests trump long term. Things that affect you personally are more important than things that affect a million Africans.

That's how it works, that's how it goes sideways. We look at the end effect and can't believe the stupidity, but it's all the steps that went before that created the situation. Politicians know that parents can be held hostage for school funding, so they do it again and again, using the money and jobs to gain and retain power. Then Parents get tired of being blackmailed with their kids and the excess money stops. The parasites are tougher to displace (political patronage) than the teachers or the programs, so first programs go, then teachers. School quality declines, Parents don't want to pay for crap public schools. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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