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Re: Laugh at Trump all you want
« Reply #870 on: October 26, 2016, 02:36:59 PM »
The simple reality is that retirement is a dated concept, or at least it is in the manner people think about it. It's pretty hard to pay for thirty years of retirement with thirty years of working.  Especially if some fund manager is taking a big cut for doing nothing of value.  Not an easy thing to do. I'm still working on my book, but people might find some value in the rough state. The price is right, it's free.   

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Re: Laugh at Trump all you want
« Reply #871 on: October 26, 2016, 04:31:12 PM »
The simple reality is that retirement is a dated concept, or at least it is in the manner people think about it. It's pretty hard to pay for thirty years of retirement with thirty years of working.  Especially if some fund manager is taking a big cut for doing nothing of value.  Not an easy thing to do. I'm still working on my book, but people might find some value in the rough state. The price is right, it's free.   

https://retirement.pressbooks.com/

I'll take a read of the book the next rainy day.  However, at at first blush, the retirement age is being set by the guv'ment at 67, that is for full benefits under social security.  So you'd need to work for 49 years (45 if you spent 4 years in college) and you'd be retired for about 13 or years, more or less, if the average life span is 80 or so. The accountant and statistician in me wants to delve further into the math, but after all, I am retired.  Not to mention it's been done already, and it's a google search away.  You'd have to retire at 48 to 52 to get the work 30 and retire 30 ratio. 

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Re: Laugh at Trump all you want
« Reply #872 on: October 26, 2016, 09:12:30 PM »
In actuality, the average age for retirement in the US is 62. I have no idea about the current generation, but most of my peers started their real job at about 30. Just a spitball number, but not totally indefensible. Probably better to say 35 working years and 25 retired years, but I think that's too conservative on average. If the average mortality age is 80, the planning horizon needs to be substantially higher unless you plan to die on schedule. Some say 85, I think 90.  But then I'm almost 70, and so I would say that.

Whenever people talk about social security and retirement I listen in awe. Opinions unhampered by facts. I've looked at the numbers a lot of different ways, and I conclude that if it's a Ponzi scheme, it's a poor one. This is a pretty interesting article: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/feb/01/medicare-and-social-security-what-you-paid-what-yo/  but there are a lot more like it. Some start off with a lot of hand waving, and you can pretty much stop reading when you see that. It's just math, though the numbers are very slippery--if nothing else, inflation and time make it all hard to follow.

For example (from the article) "According to this calculation, past and current generations will pay $71.3 trillion in payroll taxes but will receive $93.4 trillion in benefits. Adjusting for past and future transfers from the federal Treasury, the difference between "paid-in" and "paid-out" works out to $21.6 trillion."

So there's that.
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Re: Laugh at Trump all you want
« Reply #873 on: October 27, 2016, 09:02:28 AM »
What is the breakdown of that $2.45 Trillion? 



We are currently spending (wasting) 4 million dollars a day in Syria alone.  Sharpen your pencil.



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« Reply #874 on: October 27, 2016, 01:00:23 PM »
Battle of 2 Republicans - One outspoken paid to be critical and one paid as Trump's own designated surrogate.  "I'm a conservative.  I've always supported the Republican candidate even if I don't like him."  This maybe underscores the Trump base voting block.  The rest of his block - the complete hatred of Hillary and Bill - and Dem policy.

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Re: Laugh at Trump all you want
« Reply #875 on: October 27, 2016, 02:45:05 PM »
This election cannot come to a conclusion fast enough.  With so much boring repetitive rhetoric and spin and propaganda and misstatements and flip flops - in the almighty effort to get as many votes as possible at any cost.  Truth and reality be damned.  Will be so interesting to see who was doling out what bs when and how much after all the votes are counted and verified.

Elections and stress and money and ego and anger can bring out the worst in people.  And oddly sometimes that can be a good thing.  At least you know a lot better who you are dealing with.  But Hillary is certainly not a good candidate choice either.  Really she is terrible - and her pivots are terrible.

Many say Trump will never actually sue his accusers.  The burden of proof is on him.  He has much too much to lose - and very little to gain at this point.  The Access Hollywood tape cannot be undone - and he will be deposed.  So his recent flip flop was very expected.  If only Miss Universe and the AC tape did not appear.  He would have crushed Hillary.  Dems and media - Hmmm?

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Re: Laugh at Trump all you want
« Reply #876 on: October 28, 2016, 03:20:00 PM »
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Re: Laugh at Trump all you want
« Reply #877 on: October 28, 2016, 04:39:13 PM »
Well the FBI just dropped a turd in the punchbowl. Bizarro world!
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Re: Laugh at Trump all you want
« Reply #878 on: October 28, 2016, 05:56:32 PM »
You can't make this stuff up.  As a former Washington insider, I was trying to imagine scenarios as to why the FBI would find thousands of more of hidden emails.  I thought maybe when Wikileaks published all those emails of Hillarys  own staff being critical of her, that she had one of her goons pay one of the offenders a visit.  And that maybe the guy dropped a dime to the FBI before The Clinton Mafia could Vince Foster him.  But no, effing Tony Weiner somehow turns everything he has anything to do with, into an unmitigated disaster, yet again.  Can't wait to see if one of his famous underwear pics is on the same device as a Top Secret email from Clinton. 

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Re: Laugh at Trump all you want
« Reply #879 on: October 28, 2016, 06:10:03 PM »
to add to the scenario:  the Clinton team did a good job keeping the circle tight during the investigation so far.  well rehearsed, lock step answers to the FBI.  Hillary refusing to recall any truthful answers that would hurt her. even hired one of the main witnesses to be the lawyer that represented all the other witnesses.  legal, but highly unethical and corrupt.

now that they have Weiner/Huma's devices, and tens of thousands of emails that were not turned over, and they know that from the Wiki-leaked emails that there is some disloyalty on her staff, the FBI will be going for the weaklings that might jump ship and anyone that lied to them.
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Re: Laugh at Trump all you want
« Reply #881 on: October 29, 2016, 07:00:17 AM »
Ughhhh.  If Comey is not aware of some conclusively damning additional evidence this is one hell of a power play.

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Re: Laugh at Trump all you want
« Reply #882 on: October 29, 2016, 08:23:40 AM »
So I was called insane when I called the Clinton Foundation a giant tax dodge.....Taut was right....it's much worse.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-cold-clinton-reality-1477608696
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Re: Laugh at Trump all you want
« Reply #883 on: October 29, 2016, 09:29:18 AM »
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Re: Laugh at Trump all you want
« Reply #884 on: October 29, 2016, 09:49:13 AM »
Ughhhh.  If Comey is not aware of some conclusively damning additional evidence this is one hell of a power play.

Perhaps a better understanding of the details as well as the law:  Comey promised Congress when he was called to testify he would notify them of any new developments, which is what he has done.  Someone from Congress leaked the info, you don't see Comey discussing it with the media.   Clinton is calling for him to release all the details, but to do so would be in violation of the federal Privacy Act.  Details of ongoing investigations are not public information, and can only be released in a limited fashion to serve a law enforcement purpose.  Comey hasn't told Congress anything more than the investigation has been reopened.  Loretta Lynch wanted Comey to conceal the reopening of the case.  Wouldn't that also be a power play as well as a coverup?  I just read that he decided to hold his original press conference without Lynch after it was learned that Bill Clinton was allowed to board her plane and have a private discussion with her, dates before the original investigation was concluded. 

Looks like what it is, is that tens of thousands of emails from Hillary's home brew private basement server were found on a device that Huma Abedin shared with Anthony "The Weiner" Weiner.  It remains to be seen if any of them were (or should have been) classified.  That is why the investigation has been reopened.   

Hillary and the Dems are upset, but it  was she that used an unauthorized private email system, sent classified documents on it, had an aide who shared a device with her internet pervert husband, and used the private server to prevent her emails as US Secy of State from being archived by the Federal govt, which is also a violation of the Federal Records Act.  Had she just used A government device, none of this would be an issue.  By the way, I used a government device and also maintained a personal device for my non work stuff.  Not to prevent the government for documenting government business like Clinton, but to keep my personal stuff personal. 

Unlike Clinton, Comey has integrity.  The FBI Director serves a 10 year term, which was established to prevent the politicization of the office.  Although a Republican, he was appointed by Obama.  Betcha anything if she gets elected, she will try to force him out for crossing her politically.  If that happens, he won't be the loser.  He would make 10 times his $200K salary as a partner in a law firm. 
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